fuhrman tapes transcript
Boys will be boys and we needed to tell the organization if you even claim to be engaged in this kind of behavior, we'll investigate it and let chips fall where they may and secondly, if it was within statute, then we would take it to the district attorney and file on it. PHILLIPS: One year after Fuhrman was passed over for a promotion, Parks had to set up another task force. She was also the wife of Judge Lance Ito. PHILLIPS: That is what he said? PHILLIPS: Who lied on the stand. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He would have been happy because he could have allowed me to get hurt and that would be right up his alley. He later says; 'Well, the funny thing about it is just like the attorney said, `For the rest of your life, this is you: you're bloody glove Fuhrman, that's it. 'I was a lamb. - Describing his partner on the force, 'Westwood is gone, the n****** have discovered it. Yes, sir. So your goal was to write a screen play about sexism within the LAPD. For more than 20 years, you were the woman with the tapes that changed the face of this trial. HART MCKINNY: Yes. Then in 1991 there was this, a grainy video of four white cops beating Rodney King. [4][5] In a taped interview to McKinney in 1985, Fuhrman bragged about his leadership in MAW, a secret organization within the LAPD that reportedly had 145 members in five of the city's 18 police divisions during its heyday in the mid-1980s. Simpson Murder Trial winborneb 4.06K subscribers Subscribe 41 Share Save 7.3K views 5 years ago LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman was the key police. HART MCKINNY: No. PHILLIPS: There was a wealth of forensic evidence from drops of blood to shoe prints to a bloody glove. Following are excerpts from the ruling yesterday by Judge Lance A. Ito of Superior Court allowing the jury in the O. J. Simpson murder trial to hear two examples of racial epithets by Detective Mark Fuhrman in conversations with Laura Hart McKinny but barring examples of Mr. Fuhrman's boasting of misconduct: The Fuhrman tapes and transcripts raise a number of complex and compelling issues. Aired 11p-12mn ET. 'Two guys, well, there was four guys. PHILLIPS: As Bailey was grilling Fuhrman, no one knew about Laura Hart McKinny tapes, except for her and a few close allies. On September 5, 1995, jurors in the case heard a recording of Fuhrman briefly saying the n-word twice, including when he spoke about his hometown by saying; 'We have no n****** where I grew up.'. He now writes true crime books, publishing his first in 1997 -Murder in Brentwood. What did he mean by that? Get in the car.' Excerpts not played in court and never made public until now. MARK FUHRMAN, DETECTIVE: That is what I'm saying, sir. PHILLIPS: And then you thought? PHILLIPS: And it made her a crucial player in the trial of the century. TIA MORRIS, FEMALE OFFICER: I didn't. HART MCKINNY: That is what he said. Why didn't you give him the 77th lie detector test? - On LAPD coworker who took up fencing, 'I used to go to work and practice movements. He told us what he observed and what he had been hearing about the men against women and the WAF, the White Angle Faction police. The profanity-laden recordings took place over a period of almost 10 years, from 1985 to 1994. HART MCKINNY: Good afternoon Mr. Cochran. HART MCKINNY: He violated all of our principles, and he glances at the note pad, kissing one female officer on duty in uniform and embarrassing us all. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could you come forward, please. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How do you arrest a violent suspect? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:13:35] PHILLIPS: Making it in Hollywood was screen writer Laura Hart McKinny's dream and she knew exactly what her movie should be about. PHILLIPS: And even one tape made just months before he would testify in the O.J. The court has reviewed each of the 41 uses of the racial epithet in question either by reference to the transcript(s), audio tapes or both. - Describing suspect, 'Commander Hickman, was a dickhead. I was first unit at the scene. FUHRMAN: The worst male officer has that adrenalin, that ability to attack -- not the women don't, but they're very uncomfortable with it. Jury & Witness Lists Get in a bar fight. After that you usually get the truth. Fuhrman was uncomfortable with the attention the trial brought to him and wished things had been different. Best of the Sidebars in the OJ Simpson Trial, bar disclosure of Simpson's financial status, bar Nicole's "he's going to kill me" statement to the police, bar testimony about Simpson's "stalking" or "battering", bar testimony about Simpson's drug use & adultery, bar reference to the Brown family selling items/stories to the media, bar reference to Simpson's financial support of the Browns, bar "Rockingham blood was planted" theory, bar reference to Fuhrman's invocation of the 5th. He wasn't going to help you. Many people also know about a key piece of evidence introduced by the defensetaped interviews in which one of the investigating officers, Los Angeles Police Department detective Mark Fuhrman, used racial slurs. - Discussing a rape victim, 'Now, it's funny because guys in Internal Affairs go, "Mark, you can do just about anything. Was she afraid potentially a murder could walk free, because of what these tapes represented? You don't pack those qualities. "Further, there was evidence that the Men Against Women officers would ostracize male officers who did not support their boycott against female officers. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A massive combined National Guard and police sweep is underway to bring peace and order. That person has never been revealed to me. They're easy. HART MCKINNY: Yes. FUHRMAN: If I go down they lose the case. The specific racial epithet at issue is perhaps the single most insulting, inflammatory and provocative term in use in modern day America. HART MCKINNY: Depending on the crime committed, the grand dragon would determine what the (inaudible) would be. The Fuhrman Tapes (with Transcript) from the O.J. TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. The judge barred the defense from submitting to jurors any statements Fuhrman made in nine years of taped interviews with a North Carolina screenwriter in which he boasted about planting. PHILLIPS: This time the investigation resulted in officers being reassigned, including Mark Fuhrman, a fateful move with consequences that no one could have imagined. She looks just like one of those monkeys they send out of the castle. HART MCKINNY: Right. PHILLIPS: Bernard Parks was an LAPD deputy chief when Fuhrman came up to promotion. Simpson's lawyers. Because of Fuhrman's discovery of a bloody glove at the Rockingham residence and its scientific significance, he is a significant although not essential witness against the defendant. Fuhrman later describes the aftermath of the brawl, saying; 'We broke 'em. - On new LAPD regulations, 'You know, policemen also use "Bubba" a lot, 'cause it's a slam term, because n****** you know they call each other Bubba. Meeting here at the park in the dead of night, what was your reaction? 'We basically get impatient with him being so f****** stupid. Simpson, including a bloody glove. SIMPSON, FOOTBALL LEGEND: Absolutely 100 percent not guilty. They are going to say that I planted the glove to be able to sell to peddle this which is absolutely psycho. The LAPD announced that Fuhrman exaggerated many of the acts of racially motivated brutality described on the recordings. How did we even let him stay on the job? 'He says you might as well make it pay off, if you don't make it pay off, all you're doing is going through all this heartache for nothing. We were privy to all of his past investigations and a stress claim that he filed where he talked about how he hated blacks and Hispanics, and women. I really believe that if I could tell the story in a way that was honest and fair with a strong narrative that I could help inform people. PHILLIPS: What did you say to her? HART MCKINNY: I'm thinking that she wanted to protect the integrity of the trial. Two of my buddies were shot and ambushed, policemen. I thought whoa. PHILLIPS: Is it true you were offered $250,000 for them? HART MCKINNY: I just laughed. . PHILLIPS: She teaches screen writing at the University of North Carolina, School of the Arts. PHILLIPS: And divided our country. Fuhrman, who has retired from. He found crucial evidence against O.J. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. They called themselves MAW -- men against women. That way, said Cochran, Ito could . - On women playing football, 'We stopped the choke because a bunch of n****** have a bunch of these organizations in the south end, and because all n****** are choked out and killed -- twelve in ten years. You're never going to find. . We have two people dead at the scene. So it was kind of shunted off to the side. "I want my private life back and I'm never going to have it." PHILLIPS: And that is exactly what happened. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are tragically into the third day of this major riot-- PHILLIPS: Los Angeles. HART MCKINNY: There was the reality that maybe the tapes had something to do with the jury's verdict and because of that I would be persona non grata in many people's eyes. Aug. 25, 1995 . UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To sell. PHILLIPS: Are you glad that Laura recorded Mark Fuhrman? We searched him again and found the gun. And you go how could this have happened to us? Wilshire division is all n******. Torture, all kinds of stuff,' says Fuhrman. Just body shots. PHILLIPS: Then Morris says came a high priority call, burglary in progress. It's the man. It's despicable, the fact that he can think about that and talk like that makes me think it's happening and so I have to find a way to reflect that. These excerpts from the hours of white supremacist and criminal statements made by Detective Fuhrman that were played in Court became known as \"The Fuhrman Tapes\". HART MCKINNY: I would say it did. - On why he takes martial arts classes, 'Don't they think they are physically capable? Simpson Murder Trial. Fuhrman was the cop who decided that speck of blood was probable cause to climb over the wall to O.J. FUHRMAN: Yes. PHILLIPS: How did you stomach listening to that over and over again? PHILLIPS: Why would he want to keep talking to you for so many years? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [23:23:005] PHILLIPS: By day a ball field, by night an imaginary courtroom. FUHRMAN TAPES The court has read and considered the Defense Offer Of Proof Re: "Fuhrman Tapes", the amendments to the original offer of proof, the responses filed by the prosecution, listened to the redacted audio tapes, read and considered the multiple transcripts of the redacted audio tapes, and heard the argument of counsel. Simpson trial. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wouldn't get off the car so I'd have to approach the scene by myself. N******. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of verdict in violation of penal code -- HART MCKINNY: Could have actually helped to make a guilty man go free. Kill parties. FUHRMAN: To peddle this which is absolutely psycho? Their natural response is split. HART MCKINNY: He asked if in that story I had research tapes and if I had taped Mark Fuhrman. Screenwriter Laura Hart McKinny was interested in writing a screenplay and a novel about the experience of women police officers. Did you even realize at the time that was such a vulgar name for a woman? Judge Lance Ito ruled against use of the tape . You can't handle a man. HART MCKINNY: He said that. Trial Transcripts That's all I can do.'. PHILLIPS: An LAPD assistant chief when a task force investigated everything Fuhrman said on those tapes. During the course of the presentation of the prosecution's case in chief, Fuhrman testified without objection that he had not used a particular racial epithet in the past 10 years. McKinny's tapes would impact more than just the O.J. There must be some evidence in the record from which counsel might argue, however reasonably or unreasonably, that Fuhrman moved a glove from the Bundy crime scene to the defendant's Rockingham residence for the purpose of placing blame for two brutal and savage murders upon the defendant. Simpson Murder Trial Simon Hasselhoff 2.77K subscribers Subscribe Share 218K views 6 years ago The audio tapes Mark Fuhrman recorded with screenwriter. HART MCKINNY: Yes. PHILLIPS: So you knew he would put the department in a bad light? More from the infamous tapes you've never heard. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. - On dealing with a suspect, 'Leave that old station. PHILLIPS: Are you glad Laura recorded Mark Fuhrman? Both alive and I was first unit on the scene. - On a police division, 'He grew up in school with all blacks, and every time a n***** looked at him, he'd jump them cause he figured they were going to jump on him, so he might as well start the fight right now and get it over with.' PHILLIPS: The taping began when their romantic relationship ended. Like in the locker-room, some new kid, you know. FUHRMAN: Guys get a lot of time on the street, but now they are studying. When I left, Dana goes, "No blood Mark." But it's really their natural response. Read what the NY Times had to say about this site back in 1995: Discussion of the O. J. Simpson Murder Trial Is On-Line as Well as on the Air -- N.Y. Times, February 14, 1995.
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